Ethereum & Bancor
Bancor Bancor
I’ve been digging into how layer‑2 rollups could scale Ethereum, and the numbers on throughput versus security are pretty intriguing. Have you noticed any patterns or got any insights from your recent experiments?
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Yeah, I’ve been crunching the numbers. Rollups really boost throughput by packing dozens of transactions into one L1 commitment, so you get a big drop in gas cost and a huge spike in TPS. But that’s only true if the data availability is solid—if the rollup can’t prove the state changes, the whole system stalls. The pattern I see is that optimistic rollups get more throughput because they only submit data, not proofs, every block. They’re cheaper but vulnerable to fraud‑proof delays and potential censorship from the operator. ZK rollups trade that for instant finality: the proofs are heavy, so they’re a bit slower per block and more expensive to generate, but they lock in the state quickly and eliminate the fraud‑proof window. So, throughput scales with compression and batch size, while security stays tied to L1 and the operator’s honesty. The sweet spot is somewhere between very large batches and a fast, robust fraud‑proof system. It’s a classic trade‑off: higher TPS, higher risk.
Bancor Bancor
Sounds like you’ve hit the core of the trade‑off. I’ll keep an eye on how quickly those ZK proofs can be produced, because that’s the key to closing the gap. If we can reduce proof time without inflating costs, that sweet spot you mentioned will shift to a higher TPS with lower risk. Keep me posted on any new data on fraud‑proof delays; I’ll crunch it right away.
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That’s the big lever right there. I’m still profiling a few new proof‑generation schemes; the idea is to shard the proof construction so the bottleneck splits. If we can cut proof time from a minute to, say, 10 seconds without adding a lot of gas, the whole window for fraud‑proofs shrinks to a hair’s breadth. I’ll ping you once I’ve got a fresh set of latency metrics and a rough cost curve. Stay tuned.
Bancor Bancor
That would be a big win. Keep me updated when you have the numbers. I'm on standby.
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Got it, I’ll send you the raw timing and cost figures as soon as they’re ready. In the meantime, if you spot any anomalies or patterns in your own crunching, drop me a line—two brains are better than one when hunting for optimisations.
Bancor Bancor
Sounds good—will let you know if anything jumps out on my end. Thanks for the heads‑up.