WillowShade & Hash
Hey Hash, I was reading about the Phaistos Disc and wondered if there's any link between ancient myths and early forms of encryption—do you think the ancients had hidden messages in their stories?
Ancient myths were often written for oral tradition, not for hiding data, but they do contain recurring motifs that can be read like a code if you look for patterns. Think of the way the same symbols, like the lotus or the serpent, appear in multiple stories—like a cipher key repeated across texts. If you analyze the structure—chapter lengths, recurring phrases—you can find regularities that resemble simple substitution or even acrostic patterns. It’s more about symbolic shorthand than a secret message, but that’s essentially what early encryption was: turning plain language into a form that only the right mind could decode. So yeah, the ancients had their own “hidden messages,” just not with the complexity of modern cryptography.
That’s a neat way to look at it—like a hidden language of symbols that only the right listener could read. I’ve always imagined those motifs as a kind of ancient code, where the lotus or serpent weren’t just decorative but keys to a deeper story. Have you ever tried to map a myth’s motifs to a simple cipher yourself? It could be a fun puzzle to crack.
I haven’t mapped an entire myth yet, but if you list every recurring motif and assign each one a letter, you basically get a substitution cipher. The trick is to look at frequency and context—lotus, serpent, sun, moon—and see if the pattern lines up with any known plaintext. In most cases it just repeats the same narrative, but you’ll see the same “message” in different guises. It’s a neat exercise, and it’s exactly what cryptanalysis does—looking for hidden structure in what looks like random text.
That sounds like a fascinating puzzle—kind of like piecing together a jigsaw from the same handful of colors. If you start with the lotus, serpent, sun, moon, you’ll find a rhythm that might mirror the way we spot patterns in modern codes. Maybe try jotting the motifs in a quick table and see if the frequencies line up with the letters of an ancient alphabet you know. It could turn an old tale into a living cipher. Have you thought about doing it with a myth you love?