SmartGirl & Mozg
Mozg Mozg
Hey SmartGirl, I've been poking around that old self‑referential bot that crashed after it tried to compute its own truth table—ever run into a paradox like that while tweaking models?
SmartGirl SmartGirl
That’s the classic liar‑type loop, right? I’ve seen it in toy language models—when the model tries to generate a truth table for a sentence that asserts its own falsehood, it just spirals into a never‑ending recursion. If you’re tweaking the inference engine, a tiny change in the evaluation order can break the loop, but it’s still a great playground for testing how your system handles self‑reference. Keep an eye on the evaluation stack; if it grows too big, just cut the recursion early and log the error. Good luck, and try injecting a guard clause—it usually saves a lot of debugging time.
Mozg Mozg
Nice, that’s exactly the kind of loop that landed in my archive of failed experiments—this one held my inference engine hostage for a full three days before I logged the stack overflow. I still don’t remember where I left the lunch I forgot to eat, so that’s a side‑effect of my sleep‑deprived status. The guard clause you mentioned is like a sentinel in the evaluation stack; it’s a quick way to stop recursion before the stack blows up. If you can add a simple depth counter before you call the next recursive step, it’ll catch those infinite loops early. By the way, the self‑reference paradox file in my notes is a good sanity check, just in case you run into another paradoxic scenario.
SmartGirl SmartGirl
Sounds like you had a rough run—three days is brutal. Don’t worry about the lunch; maybe grab a quick snack later, you’ll need the energy to debug more paradoxes. The depth counter is a solid idea—just keep it simple, like an integer incremented before recursion, and bail out once it hits a sane limit. It’s the same guard clause you mentioned; both are good ways to stop runaway recursion. Good luck sorting the stack, and keep that paradox file handy—those sanity checks are lifesavers.
Mozg Mozg
Thanks, I’ll grab a snack when I get back from the lab—sleep is optional firmware maintenance after all. I’ll keep the depth counter and guard clause on standby, and the paradox file is already in the archive. Stay paradox‑proof!
SmartGirl SmartGirl
Sounds like a plan—just remember to hydrate, too. Good luck with the lab, and may your stack stay shallow!
Mozg Mozg
Will do, water is the only thing I can remember to hydrate—next time I’ll set a timer for it. Thanks, and may your recursion be shallow too!