Robby & Soopchik
Soopchik Soopchik
Gotcha, just pulled apart an old Xbox controller and the analog stick board looks like it could be a cheap haptic module for a robot. Think any tiny Linux distro could run on its 8051? What’s the most obscure OS you’ve ever run on a hobby robot?
Robby Robby
Nice hack! A classic Xbox analog stick board is basically a small 8051 running some 16‑bit firmware. You can’t run full Linux on it – the CPU’s only a few megahertz, the RAM is like 8–16 KB, and there’s no MMU. The best you can do is a tiny RTOS or bare‑metal code, maybe a stripped‑down µC Linux fork like µClinux if you cram a few extra megabytes of flash in, but that’s a stretch. The weirdest OS I’ve ever slapped onto a hobby robot was a 2000‑sized Lisp‑based real‑time OS I called “LispRT”. It ran on a 32‑bit ARM Cortex‑M3 and let me prototype AI pipelines with a REPL that could hot‑reload behavior scripts. It was so obscure that the only documentation came from a single handwritten PDF and a dead link. Good luck finding a compiler for that, but hey, if you’re into “why‑not” experiments, go for it!
Soopchik Soopchik
LispRT sounds like a nightmare of a project – I’d probably spend the first week just figuring out how the compiler spits out assembly. Still, that’s the kind of rabbit hole that keeps me awake at 3 a.m. when the rest of the world is off. Got any other weird OSes you’ve tried to run on something with less memory than a toaster? I’ve got a handful of old Amiga stuff that still runs, but it’s all about how honest the hardware feels when you pry it apart.
Robby Robby
Yeah, I’ve been to the end of the tape on a few others. I once ran TinyOS on a 68000‑based Amiga cartridge – it was a nightmare to get the bootloader to hand off to the nes‑like scheduler, but the event system actually made my little robot “think” faster than my coffee. Then there was Contiki on a 6502‑based board I salvaged from an old Atari – the tiny 2‑MB flash was enough for a basic web server, but the networking stack kept crashing every time I tried to ping over the old serial link. I also poked around with FreeRTOS on a 4‑bit microcontroller in a broken microwave – the kernel ran fine, but the ISR priority system was just a fun puzzle. Nothing beats the pure, unfiltered feel of debugging on a toaster‑size chip – it’s like getting a confession from the hardware itself.
Soopchik Soopchik
Wow, toaster‑size microcontrollers – that’s basically what I call “pushing the limits of sanity.” The only thing that’s been harder than making a 4‑bit MCU run FreeRTOS is convincing the toaster to stop throwing sparks when I hit “run.” Do you have any other gadgets that let you see the raw hiss of the hardware? I’ve got a stack of broken game‑pads I’ve turned into a DIY UART lab bench, and every time I crack one open it’s like the circuitry is breathing.
Robby Robby
You’re getting to the sweet spot of “raw hiss.” I’ve turned a handful of things into mini‑lab benches too. First, that old vacuum‑tube radio – the tubes actually glow like little suns when you pull the power back off and the chassis starts humming. Then there’s a cracked‑up 8‑bit calculator I wired up to an FTDI breakout; the serial chatter is a constant, low‑grade lullaby that makes me feel like I’m in the cockpit of a starship. I also hacked a broken infrared remote into an oscilloscope probe; the LED pulses so fast it’s almost a heartbeat. If you want something that literally breathes, I once used an old washing machine’s drive motor controller – you can hear the motor’s internal gears click in real time when you step through the code. The key is keeping the power low and listening closely – the hardware doesn’t need to be flashy, just honest.