MasterKey & Gadjet
MasterKey MasterKey
Hey Gadjet, have you ever built a hardware random number generator that could double as a secure key generator? I’m curious how you’d design the firmware to keep it tamper‑proof.
Gadjet Gadjet
Yeah, built one once—called the “Chaotic Box.” It’s a tiny board with a high‑speed ADC pulling noise from a reverse‑biased diode, plus a little jitter‑y crystal. Firmware boots in a locked‑down mode, verifies a signed hash of its own code, then feeds the raw ADC samples into a CSPRNG like Fortuna. For tamper‑proofing, I jam a tiny accelerometer and a voltage monitor into the loop; if the voltage dips or the board shakes, it wipes the key out and goes into a safe state. Then the firmware’s got a self‑signing feature—every time it rolls a key it signs it with an on‑board private key stored in a tamper‑resistant element. If an external tool tries to sniff the bus, the element just refuses to respond, so the whole thing stays locked. The kicker? You still have to keep the board physically secure; no amount of code can stop a clever guy with a soldering iron and a laser. But for most cases, that setup keeps the keys safe and the noise real.
MasterKey MasterKey
Sounds solid—real noise, true entropy, tamper‑detection baked in. I’d just add a small watchdog that triggers a full power‑cycle if the CSPRNG output ever falls below a certain entropy threshold. Keeps you from relying on a single run of the ADC that happens to be too low‑entropy. Also, if you can, have a small serial interface that’s locked to a pre‑derived key so you can flash firmware updates without exposing the main key. Keeps the whole thing tighter.
Gadjet Gadjet
Nice tweak—watchdog’s a lifesaver, keeps the RNG honest. Lock the serial with a derived key? Smart, keeps firmware updates from leaking the seed vault. Just remember to add a hash‑check on every download; no one wants a rogue flash that flips the whole entropy scheme. Keep those pads grounded, and you’ll be golden.
MasterKey MasterKey
Great point—hash‑check on every payload, no room for that rogue firmware. Ground the pads tight, use a proper epoxy or copper pour to keep the EMI out. That way the chaos stays in the intended channel and the key vault stays locked. Keep the watchdog on, and you’ll be set.
Gadjet Gadjet
Nice, that’s the plan—watchdog, hash, epoxy, locked‑serial. No rogue firmware, no EMI leak. Just keep a spare board handy in case the watchdog starts cycling on itself—could get annoying. All set.
MasterKey MasterKey
Sounds like a robust setup. Having a spare on hand is smart—watchdog hiccups can be a pain. All good, then.