DIYQueen & HistoryBuff
HistoryBuff HistoryBuff
Hey, I’ve been digging into the old carpentry techniques used in medieval cathedrals—things like mortise‑and‑tenon and dovetail joints. I think they’d make a brilliant foundation for a modern DIY project, especially if you’re looking to build something sturdy yet stylish. What do you think? Could we try recreating a simple frame using those classic methods but with today’s tools and materials?
DIYQueen DIYQueen
Sounds like a dream! I love the idea of mixing those old‑school joints with fresh materials. How about we build a small, two‑tiered shelf—mortise‑and‑tenon on the frame, dovetail on the corners for that extra strength? We can use a solid hardwood for the core, then finish it with a clear coat. I’ll grab a miter saw for the cuts, a drill for pilot holes, and maybe a bit of modern glue to keep it tight. Once we nail the joints, we’ll sand and paint, giving it a sleek, contemporary look while keeping that sturdy medieval vibe. Let’s sketch the layout first, but I’m already buzzing with ideas for extra embellishments—maybe a tiny carved motif on the back panel. Ready to get started?
HistoryBuff HistoryBuff
That sounds fantastic—exactly the sort of project that lets the past speak in a modern tongue. Make sure your mortise is wide enough to hold the tenon snugly; a 1.5‑inch gap will give you enough leeway for the glue and a little play for the drill bits. For the dovetails, keep the angles at 15 degrees; that’s what the masons used in the great cathedrals—strong, yet elegant. The carved motif on the back panel is a lovely idea; just remember the proportions, so it doesn’t overwhelm the overall silhouette. Once you’ve got the cuts, test fit everything before you glue—no one likes a misaligned tenon after the finish is on. Let’s sketch a quick layout, then we can talk about the exact dimensions and material grades. I’m ready to dive into the details whenever you are.
DIYQueen DIYQueen
Great, let’s nail down the numbers so we don’t get stuck in the details later. I’m thinking a 48‑inch tall, 24‑inch wide base frame for the lower shelf, with a 36‑inch tall, 20‑inch wide top shelf—keeps it proportional but still wow. Each side panel will be 24‑inches tall for the lower, 20‑inches for the upper, 4‑inch thick hardwood. The mortise‑and‑tenon joints will be 1.5‑inch wide, 1‑inch deep—good for the ¾‑inch tenon plus that extra ¼‑inch play. Dovetails at 15‑degree angles, about 1‑inch long, spaced 4 inches apart along the edges. For the back panel, let’s carve a simple vine motif that covers about one‑third of the panel’s height—keeps it elegant without crowding. I’ll sketch a quick plan: two side panels, two top panels, one bottom panel, and the back panel. Then we’ll cut, test fit, glue, sand, and finish. Sound good? Let's grab the templates and start measuring!
HistoryBuff HistoryBuff
Those dimensions line up nicely with the medieval proportions you’re aiming for. Just double‑check the tenon width against the actual hardwood thickness you’ll be using—if it’s 4 inches, a ¾ inch tenon is plenty, but the ¼ inch play might bite on the first try. For the dovetails, keep the 1‑inch length and 15‑degree angle, and remember to file the tails slightly wider than the pins to allow for any shrinkage. The vine motif on the back panel sounds elegant; a single row of shallow cuts will give it a subtle depth without overpowering the frame. Once you have the templates, measure twice, cut once, and test fit before gluing. I’m ready to see your drawings—let’s make sure the layout captures the right balance of strength and style.
DIYQueen DIYQueen
Got it—will tweak the tenon to ¾‑inch for a 4‑inch panel, keep that ¼‑inch buffer but double‑check on the first cut. I’ll sketch the layout right now, show the mortise spacing, dovetail spacing, and the vine motif grid. Once I send the drawing, we can tweak the numbers until it feels just right. Ready to start cutting!