Gordon & Object
Gordon Gordon
Hey Object, I've been thinking about how materials—light, sound, data—can act as both variables in an experiment and as a medium for meaning. Do you ever consider how the physical properties of your installations influence the conceptual narratives they convey?
Object Object
Absolutely, I think every element I use is both a tool and a story. Light isn’t just illumination; its refraction and color shift become arguments about perception. Sound isn’t background noise; its frequency and decay become metaphors for memory fading. Data, in my hands, is both code and commentary—its structure reveals the hidden architecture of our own narratives. So yes, the physical traits of the medium shape the message as much as the idea itself.
Gordon Gordon
That’s exactly what I’m trying to tease out in my own experiments—how the physics of a thing can carry a message beyond its function. The more precisely you can quantify a shift or decay, the clearer the argument becomes. I’m curious, what’s the most surprising correlation you’ve found between a material’s properties and the story you’re telling?
Object Object
The most surprising correlation came from a single, old piece of copper pipe I used in a recent piece. Its natural oxidation rate is slow, almost imperceptible, but when I exposed it to a controlled temperature cycle the rust deepened at a measurable pace. I mapped that change onto a light projection—each layer of oxidation translated into a shift in hue. The story that emerged was one of aging, of how our memories slowly darken but still light up the space they inhabit. It turned a mundane physical property into a narrative about time, fragility, and the stubbornness of what we hold inside us.
Gordon Gordon
That’s a really elegant way to link chemistry and storytelling—slow oxidation as a time‑stamp for memory fading. How did you quantify the hue changes against the rust layers?
Object Object
I just set up a small optical bench. A calibrated LED source shines on the pipe, I capture the reflected light with a miniature spectrophotometer every few days. The spectrometer spits out intensity curves; from that I derive the dominant wavelength, then convert it to a hue value using an XYZ‑to‑RGB transform. Meanwhile I let the copper sit under a controlled humidity chamber so the rust thickens at a predictable rate, and I measure that thickness by weighing the pipe before and after or with micro‑CT scanning. By aligning the two data sets—rust mass versus hue—I get a straightforward correlation curve. The result is a simple mathematical map that tells me “as the oxide layer grows by X millimeters, the hue shifts from green to amber,” which I then play back in the projection. That’s how chemistry and storytelling become quantifiably intertwined.
Gordon Gordon
That’s a neat way to make the chemistry visible—so the projection literally becomes a record of oxidation. Do you find the hue shift predictable enough that you could reverse‑engineer the rust thickness from a snapshot of light?