Erika & LensPast
Erika Erika
I’ve been noodling on how we could lock in a rare film stock for a shoot without blowing the budget. I know you’re all about that vintage gear, and I’m all about the numbers—let’s see if we can find a win‑win for both sides.
LensPast LensPast
Nice idea, but let’s get real about the numbers. Film isn’t cheap, and reloading that rare stock will eat up time you’re trying to save. My first trick is to buy a small batch of the stock you need—say a 10‑roll pack—then do a batch reload. Reloading a single roll takes a lot of set‑up, but once you’ve got the metering dial dialed in and the film transport dialed, you can run a whole batch in one go. That cuts out the per‑roll prep cost and the chance of messing up your budget with a wasted roll. If the budget is still tight, consider a hybrid: run your main plates on a mid‑range stock like Kodak Portra 400, then pull out the 50‑meter rolls of that rare film for the key shots. Or even shoot the key frames on a 35‑mm still film, then re‑film those frames with your rare stock in a lab that offers a ā€œfilm conversionā€ service. Labs will often do a single roll re‑film for a fraction of the price of a full roll. Also, remember to account for the processing cost. Some labs can process the rare stock for a flat fee if you bring them a good load of film. If you’re really pushing, just lock in one reel of the rare stock, run it, then re‑film the rest on something cheaper. That way you get the look you want on the pivotal shots, and you keep the bulk of the shoot under budget.
Erika Erika
Nice plan, but let’s keep the math honest. A ten‑roll batch does shave the set‑up cost, but you still have to account for the lab’s hourly labor fee, the risk of a bad run, and the fact that even a bulk load can get pricey if the lab upsells a flat fee. The hybrid idea is clever, but pulling 50‑meter rare rolls for the key shots can introduce sync issues if the frames don’t line up. Film conversion is another variable—labs vary on fidelity, and the turnaround can be slow. I’d put together a detailed cost sheet: reload prep time, lab turnaround, per‑roll expense, and a contingency. Once we see the numbers, we’ll know if the rare stock is a splurge or a calculated risk.
LensPast LensPast
I hear you, and the numbers will make the decision crystal. First, the reloader’s time: a fresh batch of ten rolls takes roughly 1.5 to 2 hours of hands‑on prep, plus a half‑hour to load and test each reel—so about 2.5 hours total. At a typical lab labor rate of 50 dollars an hour, that’s 125 dollars for the reload crew, not including your own time if you’re doing it yourself. Then the film itself: a 50‑meter rare roll is around 80 dollars; ten rolls bring that to 800. Add a lab processing fee of 30 dollars per roll, so 300 for ten rolls, plus a flat conversion fee that can be 200 if the lab upsells. That’s a ballpark of 1,225 dollars before any contingency. If you trim to a single key roll for the 50‑meter shots, you cut the film cost to 80 and the processing to 30, but you still have the 125 labor and the 200 conversion if you need to re‑film. So you’re looking at 415 for the single‑roll approach. Now, risk: a bad run could cost you the entire 10‑roll batch, so you’d need a 10% contingency—about 122 dollars added. The turnaround is another factor: if the lab takes a week, that can derail your schedule. In short, the bulk reload is cheaper per roll but risks a larger loss if something goes wrong; the single‑roll hybrid is safer budget‑wise but costs more per frame and can cause sync issues if you’re not careful about frame alignment. If the shoot can afford a week’s wait and you’re willing to lock in a 10% safety net, the bulk approach is the math‑savvy choice. If you’re on a tight schedule or the budget is razor‑thin, start with the single roll and only buy more if the first proves reliable.
Erika Erika
Looks solid, but the 10% safety net still turns the bulk into a gamble – one bad run wipes out the whole batch. I’d lean to the single roll for a quick sanity check, then scale up only if the test proves reliable. That way you avoid a full week of lock‑down and keep the budget under tighter control. Plus, if the lab’s turnaround is a week, that’s a schedule kill you can’t afford.
LensPast LensPast
Fine, a single‑roll test sounds safer. Bring a backup roll just in case the first one is a dud, because even a good lab can misbehave. If the test goes well, hand the second roll over for the main run—otherwise you can quit early without wasting the whole batch. A tiny batch of three or four rolls is another middle ground: it shows batch consistency without the full cost. Also lock the lab turnaround in advance; ask if they can do a rush if you’re short on time. Remember, film is still a living thing—keep a calibrated meter handy and a steady light source so you can control the exposure. If the lab’s turnaround is a week, it’s worth looking for a local darkroom that can finish faster, or even doing a hand‑develop if you’re comfortable. Let me know the exact stock and lab, and I’ll sketch a quick cost sheet for the test run.
Erika Erika
Sounds pragmatic. For the test I’ll pull a 50‑meter Kodak Ektar 100, the one that gives us that sharp, saturated punch. We’ll use the local Darkroom Pro Lab for processing—$30 per roll, no rush fee, and they can do a 48‑hour turnaround if we sign up. If that batch comes back clean, we’ll lock in a second roll for the main run. I’ll get the meter calibrated, set the light at 1/100th exposure, and keep a log of the metering data so we can tweak the next pass in real time. That way we’re not left chasing ghosts after a week of dead stock. I'll draft the sheet and send it over tomorrow.