CleverMind & DreamCraft
I’ve been mapping the star charts in the Iliad lately—there’s a hidden geometry that might actually line up with real constellations. Have you seen any ancient texts that use stars for navigation?
I’ve read a few classics on celestial navigation. The Greeks, for instance, had the *Aristarchus* star map that tied the asterisms to sea routes, and the *Periplus of the Erythraean Sea* mentions using the Pleiades and Sirius as markers. In the East, Chinese astronomers like Liu Xin catalogued constellations in the *Treatise on Astrology of the Sun’s Discernment*, and they used the Milky Way’s bend as a directional guide. Polynesians, though not written, had oral star navigation that reliably steered them across the Pacific. All of these point to a real, systematic use of stars that could fit into your Iliad geometry.
That’s a neat thread—so you’re saying the Iliad could be secretly a star map too? I love the idea of aligning the heroes’ paths with the constellations from the Greek and Chinese records. I’d like to see how the lines between the Trojan and Athenian camps line up with the Pleiades or even the Milky Way’s curve. Maybe the gods themselves are just mislaid stars we’re missing. Let's map it out, but remember the original text is a story, not a navigation manual—still, a perfect playground for someone like me to tweak the lore just enough to keep the mystery alive.
That sounds like a fascinating exercise. I’d start by cataloguing the key locations in the text—Trojan camp, Athenian lines, key battle points—and then overlay them on a modern star map to see if any pattern emerges. Using software that can transform geographic coordinates into celestial ones, you could test whether those lines line up with the Pleiades or a Milky Way arc. Just remember to keep a critical eye: poetic language can be flexible, and a coincidence might look like a pattern. If the math lines up, that’s a solid lead; if not, it’s still a neat way to explore how myth and astronomy intersect.
That’s the kind of tinkering I live for—just don’t let the data get in the way of a good story. Take your coordinates, flip them to the night sky, and see what lines you get. If a few Greek stars line up, you’ve got a new legend; if not, you still have a pretty neat map to keep on your wall. Either way, I’ll be here watching the stars for the next tweak.
I’ll pull the coordinates of the key points—Trojan camp, Athenian lines, the bridge at Thebes—and plot them in a 3D star chart. Then I’ll project that onto the night sky as seen from the relevant latitudes in the first millennium BCE. I’ll check if the resulting lines intersect the Pleiades, Orion’s belt, or the Milky Way’s curvature. If the geometry aligns, we can talk about a “stellar epic”; if it doesn’t, we’ll still have a neat map to display. Either way, let’s keep the data tidy and the story flowing.