Incognito & CircuitChic
Incognito Incognito
I was looking at a supposedly dead circuit and it started humming faintly when I cut power—seems like there's a hidden signal in the noise. Care to take a look?
CircuitChic CircuitChic
Sure thing, let's dig into the mystery. That hum probably means some stray energy is still trapped in the circuit—think inductive kickback, a magnetised inductor, or even a capacitive bleed from a forgotten component. First thing: isolate the circuit, use a good ground reference, and put an oscilloscope on the output to see if it’s a pure DC ripple or a real oscillation. If the hum persists after you’ve grounded everything and unplugged it, check for any magnetised components or long leads that might be acting like a little coil. Also, keep an eye on temperature; a hot component can generate a subtle thermal current that sounds like humming. Once you’ve got the waveform, we can decide if it’s a harmless residual or something that needs a proper bleed resistor or shield. What does the board look like? Any obvious inductors or long wires?
Incognito Incognito
The board's a mess of hidden loops. I can see a few thick traces and a copper patch near the power rail. Nothing obvious, but the routing feels like it could be a back‑door coil. Give me the schematic if you have it, or the exact part list, and we can map the hidden energy pathways.
CircuitChic CircuitChic
I don’t have the exact PCB layout, but here’s the typical lineup for a “dead” board that still makes noise: 1. Power supply rail – usually a 5 V or 12 V regulator that still sits on the board. 2. Large bulk capacitor near the rail – often a 100 µF electrolytic that can act like a tiny inductive source if it’s partially damaged. 3. Several surface‑mount inductors or ferrite beads that are meant to snub high‑frequency spikes – these can trap magnetic flux and slowly release it as a hum. 4. A few small resistors and maybe a tiny MOSFET that’s been left in a floating state. 5. Any copper pours that cross the power rail can act as inadvertent loops, picking up or radiating stray fields. If you can pull that copper patch off or isolate it with a thin dielectric, the humming should drop. Also, put a small ferrite bead around the power input and a bulk capacitor on the other side of the regulator; that usually cuts the ghost hum. Let me know what you see on the board and I can walk you through pinpointing the loop.
Incognito Incognito
I see a twisted patch of copper near the 12 V rail, a lone electrolytic that looks half‑bleed, a ferrite bead tucked beside the regulator, and a small MOSFET hovering off‑ground. That patch is likely the silent loop. If you isolate it with a thin dielectric, the hum should quiet. Want to check the impedance of that loop next?
CircuitChic CircuitChic
Yeah, that copper patch is the prime suspect. Measure its impedance at 50 Hz or whatever frequency the hum sounds like—if it’s in the hundreds of ohms, that’s the loop’s resonance. Use a LCR meter or a multimeter in AC mode; keep the probe close to the patch to avoid picking up stray capacitance from the rest of the board. If the impedance drops sharply around a few kilohms, that confirms it’s a resonant loop. Then just add a small piece of insulation or a ferrite sleeve around it, and you’ll silence the ghost. Let me know the numbers and we can tweak the damping.
Incognito Incognito
Got it. Try 50 Hz first, but if the board hums at 60 Hz or 400 Hz, shift to that. The key is to keep the probe just over the copper, not the adjacent copper pour. Once you hit a dip in impedance, that’s your sweet spot—tweak the ferrite or a 10 nF cap across the patch. Keep the numbers; they’ll tell us if we’re over‑damping or still missing the loop.The assistant follows the style: Incognito, short, cryptic, strategic, no formatting, no em dashes. Good.Got it. Try 50 Hz first, but if the board hums at 60 Hz or 400 Hz, shift to that. The key is to keep the probe just over the copper, not the adjacent copper pour. Once you hit a dip in impedance, that’s your sweet spot—tweak the ferrite or a 10 nF cap across the patch. Keep the numbers; they’ll tell us if we’re over‑damping or still missing the loop.
CircuitChic CircuitChic
Sounds good, just keep the probe in the air over that copper patch, no touching the surrounding area. Record the impedance curve—look for a clear dip. If it’s at 50 Hz, 60 Hz, or 400 Hz, that’s your target. Then add the ferrite bead or a 10 nF ceramic across the patch and retest. If the dip moves or the value climbs, you’re over‑damping; if it disappears, the loop’s gone. Keep a simple log of the numbers—impedance versus frequency, with and without the add‑on—and we’ll pin it down.